| Author | Message | ||
| Tex Robin (Tex_robin)
New member Username: Tex_robin Post Number: 263 Registered: 1-2004 |
I just received my packet today from Eddie and I noticed that the show is no longer The Boot & Saddlemaker Round-up. It is now the Boot-saddle & Upholstery Trade show. Comments anyone? | ||
| Brian C. Thomas (Brian_c_thomas)
New member Username: Brian_c_thomas Post Number: 59 Registered: 1-2004 |
Excuse me? I got my show packet today and was a little surprized. | ||
| Richard Cook (Richardc)
New member Username: Richardc Post Number: 39 Registered: 1-2004 |
When Sam Harris and Jack Reed organized this show in the beginning, I know for a fact they wanted it limited to the bootmaker and saddlemaker industry. One of their goals was to try to keep the one-man bootshops and saddleshops from becoming a thing of the past. Seeing how this show has grown and is so demanding for space now, I feel the addition of the upholstery trade is going to cause the show to outgrow itself because now it is apparently open to anything in the leather products industry. Where will it stop? I have nothing against the upholstery trade or any other leather trade, but I wish the bootmakers and saddlemakers could keep their own identity. I'm not aware if somebody has organized a trade show for upholstery or other leather goods in general, but I think that would be the appropriate course of action. Bootmaking and saddlemaking are a unique genre. Upholstery, clothing, baseball gloves and so many other leather trades are unique also, but they deserve their own attention and space. RC | ||
| Mark W. Fletcher (Bronbo)
New member Username: Bronbo Post Number: 74 Registered: 1-2004 |
I haven't received my packet yet, but I would be disappointed if this is the direction the event goes. I hope it doesn't continue. It needs to stay western. We are losing to much of our Western Heritage as it is. I just don't see the connection with boots/saddles and upholstery. Mark | ||
| Ben Nobody
Unregistered guest |
Not being given to posting on these websites as I am not a computer savy soul. I have to say it is a very dark and somber day as we continue to lose our perspective of what this trade is suppose to be. Alas once again the pursuit of the almighty dollar has triumphed over the integrity and honored traditions that so many boot shoe and saddlemakers try to perpetuate each and every day in their respective shops. There are many in our trade that are like myself that do not post because this contraption is so hard for old dogs to master but I know they to are saddened by this new deviant direction the convention is heading. I have always been encouraged and inspired by both the masters as well as the novices of this time honored trade. Something very special and magical about the convention will be lost in this dilution of who we are. Truly the little people weep. The ability to ENDEAVOR TO PERSEVERE just became a little more burdensome. | ||
| Mark W. Fletcher (Bronbo)
New member Username: Bronbo Post Number: 75 Registered: 1-2004 |
Ben, Welcome aboard! You are more than welcome to post here. To register, all you have to do is email me at bronbo@aol.com, give me a user name that you would like to use and a password. I'll set you up and notify you. Mark | ||
| Brian C. Thomas (Brian_c_thomas)
New member Username: Brian_c_thomas Post Number: 60 Registered: 1-2004 |
Ben, welcome well said! And to all my friends from the last Lunch Gathering in Brownwood, Pascal was right! The original Round Up in the barn would be better! "Disappointed For The Brand" Brian C. Thomas | ||
| Brian C. Thomas (Brian_c_thomas)
New member Username: Brian_c_thomas Post Number: 61 Registered: 1-2004 |
Richard, Tex, Mark, sorry I forgot to mention you in last post Here Here! "Preserving The Brand" Brian C. Thomas | ||
| Carrlyn Miller (Carrlyn)
New member Username: Carrlyn Post Number: 155 Registered: 1-2004 |
Richard Cook was very articulate in what he wrote. I don't know that we could add anything else to that. Lee and I were planning on attending this year, but now we're not so sure. | ||
| Mark W. Fletcher (Bronbo)
New member Username: Bronbo Post Number: 78 Registered: 1-2004 |
I still have plans to go. I hope everyone else will go if they can this year. I will base my going again on what I see this year and what I hear will go on next year. Perhaps this will be a one time event with the upholstery. I also think bootmakers, saddlemakers, etc., should express their displeasure (if they are) of this change. Mark | ||
| Gary Cunningham (Gcunning)
New member Username: Gcunning Post Number: 52 Registered: 1-2004 |
Carrlyn I hate to hear you deliberating. I hope you will come and make the BBQ. This is the first I have heard of the roundup change. You never can tell how things will go. Maybe there will be a postitive some way. Still working on my foxings. | ||
| Tex Robin (Tex_robin)
New member Username: Tex_robin Post Number: 266 Registered: 1-2004 |
All, I fully intend to attend the 04 Roundup in WF. I am however, concerned with the current trend of the direction it is going. If I had a vote the Upholstery trade would not be included. What will be next? Tennis Shoe mfgrs?..I don't have any vote on it so I will just have to not like it and go on..The WF Show *IS* a good thing for every Boot,Shoe, or Saddlemaker that attends and everyone that attends is a friend of ours. Eddie and Kathy are two of the nicest people I know in the Trade and they have helped me out a lot of times. However this does not stop my concerns for the preservation of our anchient craft and you can rest assured that I am going to remain concerned and do everything I can to preserve the Boot and Shoemaking craft in every way I can......TR | ||
| Mark W. Fletcher (Bronbo)
New member Username: Bronbo Post Number: 83 Registered: 1-2004 |
Has anyone heard from Eddie and Kathy on why the change? | ||
| Mark W. Fletcher (Bronbo)
New member Username: Bronbo Post Number: 84 Registered: 1-2004 |
I haven't received my packet yet. Any one else? | ||
| Richard Gjelstein (Gjelsteinboots)
New member Username: Gjelsteinboots Post Number: 14 Registered: 1-2004 |
Mark, My packet came in the mail on Monday, my location is the dry side of Washington State. | ||
| Mark W. Fletcher (Bronbo)
New member Username: Bronbo Post Number: 85 Registered: 1-2004 |
Richard, I emailed the Kimmels after my last post, they emailed me back. They have a total of 3000 packages to send out and it takes them 2 weeks to send them all out. | ||
| Brian C. Thomas (Brian_c_thomas)
New member Username: Brian_c_thomas Post Number: 62 Registered: 1-2004 |
Mark got my show packet on 9 Apr 04. "Still Disapointed For The Brand" | ||
| Carrlyn Miller (Carrlyn)
New member Username: Carrlyn Post Number: 161 Registered: 1-2004 |
Gary, Thanks for the note about coming to WF. When are we going to be seeing these boots with the foxing?  | ||
| Mark W. Fletcher (Bronbo)
New member Username: Bronbo Post Number: 89 Registered: 1-2004 |
Brian, Got my show packet yesterday. Had the "Semi-Bootmaker's Special" (no onion rings) yesterday. | ||
| Gary Cunningham (Gcunning)
New member Username: Gcunning Post Number: 53 Registered: 1-2004 |
Carrlyn Well I had to fox the linning as well. They are ready to last. I will hopefully have that done this weekend. I have had to redo them so many times cause I could hear Carl in my ear going "you going to leave it like that?" | ||
| Tex Robin (Tex_robin)
New member Username: Tex_robin Post Number: 289 Registered: 1-2004 |
Gary, How is the fox job coming along? Pics! Foxing is good experience but sometimes a lesson learned.. In the time you spend doing them you can almost make a new pair. The only time I do one is when a boot cracks prematurely. I have a pair in the shop now for the first re-sole and they are cracked all the way through on both boots in several places..It is some shrunken shoulder leather(Bullhide) But they have been in several cutting pens.....TR | ||
| Jim Kitchens (Kitchens)
New member Username: Kitchens Post Number: 4 Registered: 1-2004 |
Hey all, got my packet last week and saw the change. Even if they are including the upholstery industery in the WF show, that is where I go to see my friends in the boot and saddle industery. Living way out west (Marfa) I don't to see anyone except at the show. So, I will continue to go and see who will be there. Also, it is the show that I go to each year to stock up my leather, wool, and new tools for the next year for my shop. I can't make the far away shows and this is still OUR show, so I will go and look forward to seeing and talking to anyone of you that attend. Besides I think the B B Q is always good and with Tex and I planning to seranade you all this year, make it a point to come. You don't have to associate with those other folks, just be friendly as we in our craft always are. Jim Kitchens Marfa, Texas | ||
| Christopher M Williamson (Ttex)
New member Username: Ttex Post Number: 61 Registered: 1-2004 |
Jim I just read your post. I know where you are coming from. I can't waite until the day I can make it to the round up and meet all the people that I feel have expanded my mind to all that is needed to be good at this branch. On the other hand I've seen other situations that are like it. it hurts to see someone/a branch work it's way into something that it was not meant for. In the end though, the chance to meet up with mentors and friends would always win out. A Wet Texan in DK | ||
| Lisa Sorrell (Sorrell)
New member Username: Sorrell Post Number: 53 Registered: 1-2004 |
I have an idea for something I'd love to see at the Roundup. I'll toss it out and see what ya'll think. I wish we could have a few short demonstrations. I'm thinking of small components of bootmaking (or saddlemaking for that matter) that wouldn't require much in the way of machinery. We could have Knife Sharpening, Making a Waxed End, Lip Knife Sharpening (I'd go to that one!), Skiving...just basic skills that new bootmakers would love to see demonstrated and even experienced bootmakers might learn something new. Sort of like this forum but in person. I'm not sure Eddie and Kathy would go for it officially but perhaps if it were unofficial? What do you think? Lisa | ||
| Gary Cunningham (Gcunning)
New member Username: Gcunning Post Number: 74 Registered: 1-2004 |
Lisa I can't remember who I have discussed this with, Carl, Eddy I don't remember but they were saying something similar. It would be great for people like me. It might be hard to do this year but we could discuss it Friday night?? | ||
| Ben_nobody (Ben_nobody)
New member Username: Ben_nobody Post Number: 31 Registered: 4-2004 |
If the mind is willing you can force the flesh to follow. How about inlays Lisa. there ought to be some veterans that can be enlisted to pilot such an undertaking with more than 90 days till W.F. | ||
| Mark W. Fletcher (Bronbo)
New member Username: Bronbo Post Number: 189 Registered: 1-2004 |
Lisa, I think it is a great idea. I think if someone will discuss it with Eddie and Kathy soon, perhaps some space/table can be reserved and some announcements on the PA system or just handouts can be made. Even a non-bootmaker like me would be interested in watching. | ||
| Lisa Sorrell (Sorrell)
New member Username: Sorrell Post Number: 54 Registered: 1-2004 |
I'm in northern California visiting Valerie Coe right now, so this is the first time I've gotten to check on the forum in several days. I'm glad the idea is being discussed and I'll check back in when I get home. Lisa | ||
| Gary Cunningham (Gcunning)
New member Username: Gcunning Post Number: 75 Registered: 1-2004 |
I am having problems with hotmail. I haven't been able to check my account for some time. I have tried many things and nothing has worked. If someone has emailed me and I haven't answered try me at gcunning42@yahoo.com | ||
| Gary Cunningham (Gcunning)
New member Username: Gcunning Post Number: 84 Registered: 1-2004 |
Janne Friday my family of 4 went to Fort Worth it is under a 2 hour drive from Wichita Falls. We went to Will Rogers where horse shows and rodeos go on alot. We then went to the Famous stock yards to M.L. Leddys boot's, and many "TEXAS" stuff shops. At 4 O'Clock we watched the cattle drive of about 10-12 HUGE Longhorn steers. Risky's Steak house and Famous Cattlemans steak house are there as well. If you have the time BillyBobs is a block away and has a rodeo going inside. Janne, the point to all this is if you Fly into DFW airport that might be a neat side trip to take in. | ||
| Janne Melkersson (Janne_m)
New member Username: Janne_m Post Number: 50 Registered: 1-2004 |
Gary, Seems like you and your family had a very nice day. Thank's for letting me know about it. Man, I'm getting hungry reading about the steak houses. I'll have to bring one of those bbq grills back home :-) | ||
| Gary Cunningham (Gcunning)
New member Username: Gcunning Post Number: 85 Registered: 1-2004 |
Yes we did. I just wanted you to know that there were some really cool, Texas, things to do if you had the time | ||
| Mark W. Fletcher (Bronbo)
New member Username: Bronbo Post Number: 196 Registered: 1-2004 |
Janne, You must order calf fries if you go to Riskey's Steakhouse. Also, if you like Country-Western music there is Ernest Tubb Record shop. There is also a Ponder Boot Company in the Stockyards that maybe worth a visit. | ||
| Brian C. Thomas (Brian_c_thomas)
New member Username: Brian_c_thomas Post Number: 114 Registered: 1-2004 |
Janne, don't forget to bring the Bergs for admission! I will need then soon! How are the scallop tops coming? "Reminding For the Brand" Brian C. Thomas | ||
| Janne Melkersson (Janne_m)
New member Username: Janne_m Post Number: 51 Registered: 1-2004 |
Mark, thank's for the tip. Brian, I'll keep a look-out for the Bergs. But as you know, they are hard to find these days. Good luck in your new shop. Janne | ||
| Tex Robin (Tex_robin)
New member Username: Tex_robin Post Number: 528 Registered: 1-2004 |
Wichita Falls was the most successful show we have had.. There may not have been as many people there, I don't know but there were more boots entered in the contest than I have ever seen. so if you are not entering you are missing out....TR | ||
| Tex Robin (Tex_robin)
New member Username: Tex_robin Post Number: 530 Registered: 1-2004 |
I just talked with Kathy and she said this yrs show was the largest yet..there were 13 more vendors than last yr and over 1300 visitors that came. Next yr the show will run for two days with the swap meet being run simultainously with the show for half a day on Fri....TR | ||
| Mark W. Fletcher (Bronbo)
New member Username: Bronbo Post Number: 253 Registered: 1-2004 |
Tex, I didn't think it was bigger than previous shows, but I am happy that it was. Didn't think there was more vendors. I thought it was about the same. (Message edited by admin on October 18, 2004) | ||
| Tex Robin (Tex_robin)
New member Username: Tex_robin Post Number: 531 Registered: 1-2004 |
Mark, Kathy said there was even more floor space used this yr than last. Maybe this is why it seemed smaller because the vendors were spread out more.....TR | ||
| Jim Kitchens (Kitchens)
New member Username: Kitchens Post Number: 5 Registered: 1-2004 |
I may be a little late inposting this, but I would like to know what you thought of Tex and my playing at the banquet this year? Tex, maybe I should have asked you first before posting this but I haven't heard any thing from anyone good or bad. I had fun and thought we did a pretty good job with never having played together before. For those that stayed and listened, Thanks and for those that did not I think you missed some fun. Jim Kitchens Marfa | ||
| Mark W. Fletcher (Bronbo)
New member Username: Bronbo Post Number: 266 Registered: 1-2004 |
Jim and Tex, Personally I thought it was good and hope you two or someone else does something similar next year. One thing I think could be changed for next year, in my opinion, is to set the entertainment up in the front, same area as the podium. I think that by having the entertainment on the far side of the banquet it caused people who wanted to talk or didn’t want to listen to the entertainment, to move to the opposite side. I thought the talking was a distraction (not against people talking) to those who wanted to listen to the entertainment. Perhaps if entertainment is done in the front, more people would listen and those who want to talk will go to the lobby area. | ||
| Tex Robin (Tex_robin)
New member Username: Tex_robin Post Number: 565 Registered: 1-2004 |
Jim, Mark, Jim, you can bet I will be back , Lord willing and I will bring my Electric with maybe some special effects and some new songs.... Mark, Yes, I think you may be right although I didn't hear any of the talking in the room. we will just have to drown them out! Or make um wear ear plugs! ....TR | ||
| Brian C. Thomas (Brian_c_thomas)
New member Username: Brian_c_thomas Post Number: 181 Registered: 1-2004 |
Jim, Mark, Tex, I thought the music was great. Maybe you should type up a contact point for musicians and ask Eddie and Kathy Kimmel to put a contact info in the show package. Might get a whole concert scheduled. "Music by the Brand" Brian C. Thomas | ||
| Gary Cunningham (Gcunning)
New member Username: Gcunning Post Number: 152 Registered: 1-2004 |
Well Brian I figured you would have a count down!! What 3 months? Carrlyn are you and Lee going to make it? (BTW looks like we are going to make it to Austin. I need some directions.) Tex, Brian we need to let Randy know how great of a weekend it is so he will schedule it in! Oct. 7 and 8th. Randy you need to get a hotel room and contact Eddie or Kathy for a packet. You can sign up when you get here it's just easier to get a packet. | ||
| Tex Robin (Tex_robin)
New member Username: Tex_robin Post Number: 689 Registered: 1-2004 |
Gary, Brian is finally having to work for a living. He probably doesn't even know what month the Round-Up is! But he has not forgotten how to eat the grub! Yes , it is a great outing and well worth it for everything...We may even have some new pickers and grinners there this year for after the banquet. I have been learning some new tunes for my New Acoustic Electric and will be ready to play....Anyone that can play or sing a tune will be welcome and we will not allow any rotten tomatoes in the building!.....TR | ||
| Gary Cunningham (Gcunning)
New member Username: Gcunning Post Number: 153 Registered: 1-2004 |
Thanks Tex, I hope Randy can come. I don't think he has any idea how much fun it is. CARRLYN Where are you? We (family) are going to be in Austin Sat. on our way to Corpus. I need to know some directions. | ||
| Randy Cooley (Rocky)
New member Username: Rocky Post Number: 38 Registered: 1-2005 |
Ok, You all talked me into it. I plan to attend the roundup. I'm probably going to book my flight and room sometime this week. I want to book early to avoid the rush when the other several hundred bootmakers from Chicago decide to all book at once. How do I contact Eddie or Kathy for the round up packet | ||
| Carrlyn Miller (Carrlyn)
New member Username: Carrlyn Post Number: 413 Registered: 1-2004 |
I'm here Gary. We'll be here on Saturday. I'll send you an email with directions. It's pretty simple. | ||
| Mark W. Fletcher (Bronbo)
New member Username: Bronbo Post Number: 361 Registered: 1-2004 |
Randy, Glad to hear you are going, you will be glad you did. Hope I see Carrlyn and Lee, Jake, Duck, Pablo, Richard, Alan Bell, etc. This will be the first one without Jack Reed being with us so I think the more the merrier. | ||
| Gary Cunningham (Gcunning)
New member Username: Gcunning Post Number: 155 Registered: 1-2004 |
Randy I just sent you info on Kathy's number. Everyone knows Tex Everyone can spot Brian. Mark and I both will be walking around and someone can direct you to us. We'll show you around. When I leave to go cook someone will show you or direct you to the house. | ||
| Brian C. Thomas (Brian_c_thomas)
New member Username: Brian_c_thomas Post Number: 296 Registered: 1-2004 |
Gary, my show fee is paid and the Motel reserved! What's for Supper? "Hungry for the Brand" Brian C. Thomas | ||
| Brian C. Thomas (Brian_c_thomas)
New member Username: Brian_c_thomas Post Number: 327 Registered: 1-2004 |
Carrlyn, yes I am counting the days until the round up. Will you and the Famous Austin "Shoemaker" Lee Miller be attending this year? "Inquire for the Brand" Brian C. Thomas | ||
| Carrlyn Miller (Carrlyn)
New member Username: Carrlyn Post Number: 443 Registered: 1-2004 |
Brian, We have to attend a wedding up in Wichita, Ks on that Friday, but will drive down Saturday morning. I'm sorry we won't be making it to Gary's Friday night. We'll see you there though. This will be our first time in WF. | ||
| Gary Cunningham (Gcunning)
New member Username: Gcunning Post Number: 191 Registered: 1-2004 |
Brian Found out last night about your call. After I got your e-mail. I did e-mail you back and this is what I got back from hotmail. ----------------------------------- This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification. THIS IS A WARNING MESSAGE ONLY. YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE. Delivery to the following recipients has been delayed. B17CREWDOG@aol.com From: Gary Cunningham <cunninghamtx@hotmail.com> To: B17CREWDOG@aol.com Subject: RE: Brian Thomas boots Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 7:19 AM When did you leave it. I was in waco at district compatition. |